Disclaimer: This episode includes discussions of sensitive topics, such as sexual assault and domestic violence. Listener discretion is advised.

Jane Randel and Pamela Zaballa, the leaders of NO MORE, a global domestic violence initiative and long-term advisors to Justin Baldoni’s upcoming film “It Ends WIth Us,” join for a truly unique discussion about the complex causes of intimate partner violence, generational cycles of abuse, and the burning need for empathy and inclusion towards men in these conversations.

Jamey, Justin, and Liz bravely open up about their personal experiences as survivors of sexual assault and domestic violence. Liz shines a light on the gaslighting and self-deception survivors face, staying in relationships that might appear flawless to the outside world. Jamey vulnerably shares his experiences with sexual assault and molestation from a young age, processing his trauma later in life, and how he's since discovered a deep sense of peace and self-acceptance.

Learn about NO MORE’s first of its kind collaboration with Wayfarer Studios on “It Ends With Us”, emphasizing the powerful role media and entertainment can play in creating narratives of change that encourage survivors to share their stories.

Timecodes:
(00:33) - We have to stop talking to men as if they perpetrators of abuse
(05:54) - Welcome Jane Randel and Pamela Zaballa
(07:19) - No More’s input on “It Ends With Us”
(11:20) - How men can correct cycles of abuse
(17:50) - When was the last time you didn’t feel enough?
(19:04) - Spotting early signs of abuse and power imbalance in relationships
(26:27) - Trauma’s role in toxic relationships
(31:26) - The complexities of sexual violence and trauma comparison
(39:44) - Child survivors of domestic abuse/ How witnessing abuse affects children
(47:20) - Liz’s Story, the Importance of Sharing Stories
(58:32) - The importance of accountability in male friendships
(1:01:20) - Why men work towards awareness
(1:12:23) - No More x “It Ends With Us”


About NO MORE:
The NO MORE Foundation is dedicated to ending domestic violence and sexual assault by increasing awareness, inspiring action, and fueling culture change. With more than 1,400 allied organizations and state, local, and international chapters, NO MORE sparks grassroots activism, encouraging everyone—women and men, youth and adults, from all walks of life—to be part of the solution. The Foundation creates and provides public awareness campaigns, educational resources and community organizing tools free-of-charge for anyone wanting to stop and prevent violence. First launched in 2013, NO MORE has brought together the largest coalition of advocacy groups, service providers, governmental agencies, major corporations, universities, communities and individuals, all under a common brand and a unifying symbol in support of a world free of violence. For more information,please visit https://nomore.org/

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HOSTS:Justin Baldoni Liz Plank, and Jamey Heath

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PRODUCED BY:
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Executive Producers: Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Tarah Malhotra-Feinberg, Marc Pritchard, Anna Saalfeld, Chris Corcoran
Producer: Kayla Nicholson

This conversation was recorded in September 2023