The Tortoise interview: Maria Ressa
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 Published On Nov 23, 2022

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Maria Ressa’s work tracking disinformation networks seeded by her own government, has landed her in trouble with the most powerful man in the Philippines: President Duterte.

Hounded by the state, Maria has multiple arrest warrants against her name, and potentially more than 100 years behind bars to prepare for - while she stands trial for speaking the truth.

Maria’s story is told from the frontline of the digital war. Her book –How to Stand Up to a Dictator– is the story of how democracy dies by a thousand cuts. It maps a network of disinformation – a heinous web of cause and effect – that has netted the globe: from Duterte’s drug wars, to America’s Capitol Hill, to Britain’s Brexit, to Russian and Chinese cyber-warfare, to Facebook and Silicon Valley, to our own clicks and our own votes.

Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:00 Welcome
02:25 Think slow, not fast: the echo chambers of algorithms
07:26 Facebook frenemies & selling data clones
10:10 The story of Rappler: holding truth to power in the Philippines
24:10 Restricting press access:
27:34 Trouble with the law:
29:54 The attention economy is a problem everywhere
36:50 The data is clear, democracy is being rolled back to 1989 levels
40:35 The spinach version of TikTok vs the exported, opium version of TikTok
47:42 There's always hope: a person-to-person defence of democracy
51:44 The community is critical: cynicism is a tool of dictatorship as it leads to inaction
54:37 How can advertisers be more moral?
1:00:00 I don't have all the answers, but keep trying.

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