Kanye West and Jay Z are just two of the iconic artists Mr Hudson aka Ben Hudson McIldowie has worked with in his impressive music career so far.

Mr Hudson and Karan relive his rise to fame in the noughties, and Ben gives insights into his winning daily routine and how to get the most out of yourself AND others, creatively.

Karan also answers your health and science questions in Crowd Science.

If you have your very own question and want to get in touch, simply head to TheReferralPod.com.

Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:05 Interview
32:32 Crowd Science

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