It's the brilliant, joyful and wise Esther Perel!

Esther is the foremost expert on human relationships and sexuality right now on the planet, and author of the New York Times bestseller Mating in Captivity, which shook the ground beneath us with the concept of erotic intelligence.

Esther joined us in Melbourne in November to launch her new game, "Where Should we Begin". She spoke with Dumbo Feather editor-in-chief, Berry Liberman.

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Thanks to our friends at Good & Proper for recording this special conversation for us.