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In an emotional and at times, high-tension conversation, Mike & Maurkice Pouncey sit with Ryan, Channing and Fred for a different type of Pivot episode than we are normally used to where the men discuss controversial topics, have extremely heated debates and reveal truth in some scrutinized situations that they've been associated with over the years. 

Mike, former Miami teammate of Channing and Maurkice, a former teammate of Ryan's in Pittsburgh, known for being two of the best Centers to play in the league during their prime began their NFL career both as first round picks and retired on the same day in Feb of 2021. Extremely talented, the brothers always were at the center of controversial topics and extremely loyal to causes they believed in which a lot of times went against cultural norms and often against their peers in the locker room. 

Mike and Maurkice received a lot of backlash for their public support and loyalty to former Florida teammate and friend Aaron Hernandez after he was accused of murder and found guilty of several charges involved with serious off the field situations. For the first time since the death of Aaron Hernandez, the brothers publicly cleared the air and set the record straight on how their support was for the person, not the actions. Detailing the days of trial and leading up to finding Hernandez dead in his jail cell, many rumors and speculation circled about what really happened to Hernandez and both Mike and Maurkice share their personal insight into the situation. Fred also chimes in saying how he spoke to Aaron the night before he died as well and his thoughts on the overall feeling surrounding the incidents. 

Being connected to controversy isn't new to the Pouncey brothers as they also received backlash for their public support of President Trump and explain to the guys how they have no regrets or no care for the hate they received by doing so. Ryan and Maurkice get into a heated exchange while discussing the difference of opinions and seeing the world differently despite so many similarities in upbringing and culture. 

Playing college football at Florida, the Pouncey Twins played for Urban Meyer, who they credit for helping them develop into mature men at an early age. Mike shares his thoughts on why Coach Meyer was not as successful at the NFL level as he was in College. Fortunate to play for Coach Mike Tomlin, Maurkice spends time explaining why Tomlin is the greatest leader of men and how he doesn't get enough credit for the impact he has made on so many who have played for him. Ryan asks Maurkice about the infamous conversation that him and Big Ben had on the bench after the playoff loss in the 2020 season and what went through his mind that night to lead to early retirement. In a tearful explanation. Maurkice shares what that moment represented in his life and why it was so important for him to leave the NFL at that moment and also walk away from the game he loved with his brother on the same day. 

Known for protecting QBs all of their lives, Ryan and Fred ask Mike and Maurkice their feelings about the new concussion protocol and how it's changing the game.

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