Novo and Marie discuss HBO/Max original television series "Barry," focusing on how they inverted the paradigm of the show's tone, the complex characters, how Hollywood manipulates real life stories for the screen, why there's nothing quite like it right now, and why "Barry" may not be this misunderstood anti-hero, but perhaps, a villain...

Gems
Novo: "What we do in the Shadows" (FX)
Marie: King Krule (artist)

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