One of Next Question’s more personal episodes, this conversation features a very special plus one: Katie’s daughter Carrie! Katie and Carrie, along with their guest, author Emmeline Clein, have all grappled with disordered eating from young ages. The research bears out that this is a nearly universal experience for American women, and that was the inspiration for Clein’s new book, Dead Weight: Essays on Hunger and Harm.

Everyone in this conversation knows on a deep level how easy it is to be beguiled by the pressure to be thinner, that thin means “perfect”--and how hard it is to get out of that mindset. But something powerful happens when lived experience is born out in research, data, and other types of “proof”: it becomes impossible to continue to blame the victims–all of our women and girls–for what is a society-level sin. That is the message of Clein’s book, and this episode.

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