This interview presents one of the outtakes from the 180 interviews I conducted for my 6 part PBS television series, making sense of the 60s. We went through an amazing research process to find people like this guy. Whether you agree with him or not, whether you like what he did or not, he is a great storyteller filled with passion for what he lived at that time. The communes were an amazing and strange phenomenon. Although I lived at that time and had colleagues experimenting in this way, I had my nose to the grind stone doing hard work making documentaries.