Bob Woodward achieved legend status for his reporting on Richard Nixon's Watergate scandal. Since then he's written books on the last 10 US presidents and conducted 19 taped interviews with President Trump.

That's how he got to know the mind of the man.

His latest book, War, offers the starkest warning about the dangers Trump poses, but he also expressed surprising optimism about the prospect of a second Trump presidency. He spoke to 7.30's Sarah Ferguson.

00:00 - Bob Woodward's reaction to the US election result
1:15 - Why Woodward is optimistic about a second Trump term
05:35 - 'Presidents have choices'
06:58 - On Trump governing by 'instinct'
8:40 - 'The office of the president changes the person'
9:32 - Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin
11:35 - Trump 'doesn't have a natural group of aides'
13:15 - How Ukraine will be feeling about Trump's re-election
15:20 - Will Donald Trump 'rise to the occasion'?
16:40 - What should Australia do?
19:15 - Woodward on Trump's response to COVID
23:45 - Should Joe Biden have made clear he was a one-term president?
25:20 - Do journalists need to be worried?

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