Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo sit down with Oscar De La Hoya to meet the man behind the legend. On the agenda: magic mushrooms and forgiveness, Ryan Garcia, Dana White, the state of modern day boxing, sex symbolism, childhood trauma, and lessons from fatherhood. And will someone tell Henry he's pretty.

0:00 - Intro
3:30 - Making Sense of Early Life
13:30 - No Handbooks for Fatherhood
16:00 - Behind the Gold Medal
20:30 - Mushrooms and Forgiveness
26:15 - Finding Success, Purpose, and Identity
37:15 - Dana White
41:30 - Álvarez, Benavides & Passing of the Torch
48:00 - Breaking Down Crawford vs. Mayweather
50:40 - Ryan Garcia
55:25 - Sex Symbols, A Curse?
1:00:00 - More Reflections; Fatherhood and Life
1:08:30 - Debrief with Kamaru & Henry

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