This week we wrestle with the idea of whether artists and musicians succeed more if they are considered relatable or aspirational. Does it even matter or SHOULD it even matter? We also try to figure out where I fit on that scale. Please, tell me what you think. Also...there are a lot of strange tangental stories in this too. We can't help it, sorry!

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