Renowned voice actor Hank Azaria joins Liz and Jamey for a candid talk on accountability during controversy. Formerly known for voicing Apu on The Simpsons, Hank found himself in the hot seat when his role as a white man voicing an Indian character was brought into question, forcing him to embark on a journey of deep introspection, personal growth, and human connection. In this episode, Hank opens up about his journey to accountability from his initial defensiveness amidst the controversy to his current life’s mission to help others shed their own unconscious biases that may be holding them back from true human connection. Later, Hank’s Human Solidarity Project co-founder, Dustin Washington joins the conversation to dive deeper into their commitment to fostering unity, introspection, and combating racial and gendered societal norms. Tune in for an illuminating conversation that encourages thought and great accountability.

Timecodes:
05:32 - Hank wonders if he’s ‘enough’ as a father for his teenage son
10:45 - How Hank’s understanding of gender equity has grown
15:00 - Societal messages of misogyny
17:40 - Letting go of Apu
28:22 - Hank’s journey to accountability
39:35 - How do we get children of the next generation excited about social change?
45:34 - A healthy amount of shame can be a good thing
47:00 - Do we use our “blindspots” as an excuse?
53:58 - Hank is working to create human solidarity
59:45 - Dustin Washington and the Soul Focused Group
01:02:45 - How has racism impacted male friendships?


Quotes:
“There are good decent people out there that will not look under the hood, because of defensiveness because of ego.” - Jamey Heath

“It’s one thing if there's a hole in the ground and you trip because you don’t see it, okay I can forgive that. But if you tell me you see the hole now but you’re just not making any effort to walk around it, okay now you’ve lost me.” - Jamey Heath

“Part of what motivated me to approach the Apu [situation] thoughtfully is what am I going to say to [my son], some day he will be old enough to discuss this? What will I look him in the eye and say?” - Hank Azaria

“I think a lot of young boys are growing up feeling like they're the problem. And feeling like they are responsible for something that they didn’t really do because they didn’t create the world we live in…you're not responsible for building the world we live in but you are responsible to change it.” - Liz Plank

“We don’t have to have all the answers, we’re searching for the answers.” - Jamey Heath

“Racism has created an artificial barrier that now lives in our subconscious, that keeps us from having the level of human connection that we should have, which allows us to come together and solve problems.” - Dustin Washington

HOSTS: Liz Plank, and Jamey Heath

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Executive Producers: Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Tarah Malhotra-Feinberg, Marc Pritchard, Anna Saalfeld, Chris Corcoran
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