Recorded July 2000 with Larry King at the infamous Rikers Island in New York.
Sante and Kenny Kimes, a notorious mother and son team, convicted of the cold-blooded killing of a wealthy New York widow, sentenced to more than a century each behind bars. She's got a rap sheet that stretches back four decades, including a stint in prison for slavery. He could face the death penalty if California convicts them in another murder case. Some say they're pure evil.

(While giving an interview a few months later, Kenny Kimes held Court TV reporter Maria Zone hostage by pressing a ballpoint pen into her throat. After 4 hours they wrestled Kenny to the ground and the reporter was unharmed.)
(A 2001 made-for-TV movie, Like Mother, Like Son: The Strange Story of Sante and Kenny Kimes, starred Mary Tyler Moore as Kimes - wiki)
(Kenny said: "My hands are around Irene’s neck, and I can feel the electricity pulsing through this tiny woman as I strangle the life out of her,' the con - now claiming to be reformed - wrote in an open letter published by Narratively.")