Ava DuVernay has written, directed and produced multiple award-winning projects and most recently directed and co-created Netflix’s ‘Colin in Black and White.’ Complex’s Claire Ateku sits with Ava to discuss what it was like working with Colin Kaepernick to tell his story, her thoughts on the NFL’s recent initiatives & what she’d be doing if not working in film. She also touches on her brief rap career. Check out the interview and be sure to hit that subscribe button.

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