[Editor's Note: The following contains spoilers for John Wick: Chapter 4]

Stuntman-turned-director, Chad Stahelski, was always the right person to partner with Keanu Reeves on a larger-than-life franchise like John Wick. Between his time spent understanding the mechanics and limits a human body can be put through, and his passion for all things martial arts and cinema, it’s no wonder John Wick: Chapter 4 was a mash-up of everything that makes action films so epic. For nearly a decade, Reeves’ has played the titular assassin with a chip on his shoulder, a debt needing to be collected, and in this fourth and possibly-final entry, everything comes to a satisfying conclusion. In what Stahelski calls a “Greek myth”-type tale in his interview with Collider’s Steve Weintraub, the mythos of Wick finds its poetic culmination.

During their discussion, which you can watch in the video above or read below, Stahelski tells all. He breaks down how he and Reeves brainstormed each installment over whiskey, how the two of them schemed up the unbelievable stunts that somehow always top the movie before. It’s clear the way that Stahelski effortlessly rattles off a number of influences that his passion for cinema goes beyond trying to top his own limit-pushing stunts, and he shares with us why Wick went on an odyssey in Chapter 4. The director reveals where Bill Skarsgård’s The Marquis originated, and whose idea it was to have John Wick take the bullet, as well as why it needed to happen.

If, like us, you always need more after that end-credit scene, Stahelski breaks that down, as well, with the concept behind every detail. In a stream of consciousness, he takes us through the most difficult stunts throughout the entirety of the franchise, from the Arc de Triomphe to Halle Berry’s dogs in John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum, how his excellent stunt team pulls off falling down the steps of the Sacré Coeur, with no CGI, and what could be next in the Wickiverse, as well as for him as a director. And if you’re still stuck on that ending, asking yourself, is John Wick actually dead? He answers that, too.

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