00:00 Who is Smosh?
01:21 Duo’s on YouTube
03:47 Selling YouTube channels
10:42 Smosh pre-YouTube
14:06 Content then vs now
18:09 Smosh’s early influences
21:50 Early internet humor’s evolution
23:25 Beef n’ Go
26:06 The cyclical nature of comedy
27:53 Video performance and analytics
32:00 Conference room creatives
34:57 Stress + comedy
38:27 Smosh’s production process
45:34 How it feels to be Smosh
47:13 The positives of selling to Defy in 2011
51:33 YT as a path to Hollywood
53:41 Scaling your voice and brand
58:30 When to expand vs simplify
1:04:41 Developing formats
1:07:23 Giving a platform to new talent
1:12:16 How to compensate talent
1:17:43 The downfall of BuzzFeed
1:20:41 What gave them the confidence to buy back Smosh?
1:22:31 Watching each other’s content after they lost touch
1:28:43 Leaving Smosh
1:33:58 Defy shutting down + Rhett and Link
1:42:45 The era of nostalgia
1:47:16 How they set up the new Smosh to play to their strengths
1:48:20 The future of Smosh
1:50:18 YouTube memberships vs Patreon
1:54:30 The state of the creator economy
1:57:30 Smosh revenue breakdown
1:59:47 Their relationship with money
2:02:25 How do will they ensure they won’t split up again?
2:06:14 What do they want to be known for?


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